that is her position. fight for her people. nevertheless. >> bob: same with wealthy people. they get tax breaks from republicans and they get paid back for them. the idea of suggesting that the city of detroit is in trouble because of the unions is ridiculous. what about the management of the companies? what about the great capitalist -- >> eric: detroit has 18.9% unemployment rate. that is higher than the national average. has median average income of $25,000. >> bob: i don't know how you make a connection. >> eric: here is how you make a connection. business environment in state of michigan, city of detroit is terrible. companies aren't coming in there investing. >> dana: a few years ago governor rick schneider took over, a businessman. he had done get awa get gateways and he didn't have to do anything else but decided to serve the state. to the point was dire. some said the governor, state of michigan would need to take over the city of detroit. you can separate the issues. bail-out idea, bail-out detroit versus what governor rick snyder is doing, fundamental change for m